passes the house, got 55 votes in the united states senate, president obama said he would sign the act and it didn't pass. let's see. did it embarrass the administration, make them look weak and infect ul. that's pretty much what was warned against. the theory here is the constitution lays out what is required to pass a bill and getting 60 votes isn't one of them. >> one more real quick thing, though. >> sure. >> on this question, the other thing the founders had a lot angst about was the majority. i get you. for the most part, the people who have used the filibuster think are a nasty, funky, ugly history, particularly for people of color. on the other hand, the whole point is the protection of minority rights. i'm always nervous about anything that says well if the majority wants it, good job. i'm often going to find myself in not the majority, right? >> i agree completely. i think there are processes that the senate could come up with that would let -- we need to have respect for the minority, of course, we need to -- we need a robust, loud, boisterous debate. that was what democracy